Naish Torch 2007

[urosk]

Bojc, Max dej povejta kej kako se obnesejo novi Torchi, na Lsc so zgledali dobro, kako kaj nov bar?

hvala.

[tadej]

uroš, kolker sem gledu zgleda ok, bar mi deluje ful dodelan, sploh uredu ker ima lepo narejen ležišče za chicken loop ob unhooked furanju. chicken se vedno lepo vodoravno postavi v ležišče in ga ni treba iskat in obračat. trim naishovsko ok in preprost, kajt sam pa ima vsaj kolkr sem gledu ful lifta pa še ok zgleda. ok bojčeva barva je bla mal trendosvka-roza :) so pa bli okretni in ok vidt ob furanju ja.

 

ja uroš žal se nismo srečal na vodi, sicer pa sem imel oči tkole ko sem fural med italjani,ker to itak vemo da je riziko pelat umes med dvema, tko da te res nisem mogu opazit. ostalih nekaj sem vidu...

[Gigi]

Èakam na reviewe za moj sajt od prijatelja, ki je furu nove Naishe/Northe celo letošnje poletje (test rider).

 

Zeankrat mi je poslal primerjavo Rebel/Sonic I (furu do sedaj), zelo pohvalu Rebela v bistvu vseh pogledih, razen low enda, če koga zanima...

 

Bojc, Max dej povejta kej kako se obnesejo novi Torchi, na Lsc so zgledali dobro, kako kaj nov bar?

hvala.

[tadej]

Zeankrat mi je poslal primerjavo Rebel/Sonic I (furu do sedaj), zelo pohvalu Rebela v bistvu vseh pogledih, razen low enda, če koga zanima...

tale primerjava me zanima ja sem se veliko spraševal pa iskal......oba sta evoluciji in me zanima....lahko link? LP

[Gigi]

hja iz messengerja bl težko (je že šlo...) ko dobim po mailu pošljem...

 

Zeankrat mi je poslal primerjavo Rebel/Sonic I (furu do sedaj), zelo pohvalu Rebela v bistvu vseh pogledih, razen low enda, če koga zanima...

tale primerjava me zanima ja sem se veliko spraševal pa iskal......oba sta evoluciji in me zanima....lahko link? LP

[joco]

Gigi, tudi mene zanima ta primerjava,ker sem vozil rebel 12 in 14, da malo primerjam vtise.

lp

[tadej]

Gigi, tudi mene zanima ta primerjava,ker sem vozil rebel 12 in 14, da malo primerjam vtise.

lp

 

in joco tvoja izjava ko jih primerjaš....da bomo mel več izjav. rebla nisem fural, sem pa s sonicom v enem letu tolk napredoval, da mi res ni žal za to kar furam :) ...

[Gigi]

OK, ker se jih več zanima za primerjavo sem ga še enkrat povprašu prek messengerja. Evo ga copy-paste:

 

Simone says:

the sail are very similar

Simone says:

but i think rebel is more user friendly

Simone says:

in the air it seams to be more present

Simone says:

probably sonic have too light bar pressure

Simone says:

the power seams the same

Simone says:

depower probably with sonic you could have a higher top

Simone says:

but i think this comes from the bar setup, in sonic bar you have unlimited depower

Simone says:

in the air seams that the rebel have less cx

Simone says:

it seams it is more aereodinamic

Simone says:

seams thet it flight very light in the window

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

cx?

Simone says:

cx is penetration coefficent

Simone says:

in the air

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

OK in the other words less grunt

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

so "worser" low end?

Simone says:

yes

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

and which one feels faster?

Simone says:

they turn in 2 different ways

Simone says:

it seams that sonic is more a bow

Simone says:

so pivot turn

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

Sonic = BOW style, Rebel = C right?

Simone says:

rebel is more a c kites

Simone says:

yes

Simone says:

both are very quick in turns but the feels different

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

what about user friendliness?

Simone says:

sonic you need 10 minutes to know the turn ability of the kite

Simone says:

the feel and so on

Simone says:

rebel is a normal kite + user friendly

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

OK

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

what about relaunching? Low winds/normal winds?

Simone says:

relaunch sonic have problem only under 9 knots

Simone says:

from LE down

Simone says:

if you have only one tip in the water no problem with 8 knots

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

That's with 11m kite?

Simone says:

yes

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

And Rebel? Assuming with 5th line no problems?

Simone says:

rebel I think it could relaunch in 7 knots with LE down because you have the 5th line

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

I think too, my boy was able to relaunch 7m LightFly with 5th line in that conditions so I don't see any difficulties with Rebel...

Simone says:

probably sonic will be better in waves

Simone says:

because it turns like a bow so it stay more in position with turning, I need to test Rebel in real waves

gigi@kite-stuff.org says:

... but both are probably great kites and only personal taste remains here...

 

BTW, prodaja pol leta stara Sonica 8,11 + da zraven custom dilo 127x39 če koga zanima -> PM.